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Hayley allan's avatar

Excellent podcast that describes perfectly the team I left in the summer. Nathalie tells it like it is, with pragmatism and sensible advice. This is a systemic issue that cannot be fixed by one person, despite the well meaning suggestions at the end by the hosts. At the age of 58 I finally realise where I went wrong. Work is a game, an act. Do not be too good, do not be yourself. Keep your head down. If you can't cope with the toxicity or incompetence of your managers, get out.

Thanks Nathalie for your brilliant work.

Nathalie Martinek PhD's avatar

Hayley! It's been a long time!

I'm sorry you had a(nother) negative experience with a team, though I'm glad you're awake to the game even if the game sucks.

Thank you for listening and for seeing things clearly too.

Hayley allan's avatar

LOL! I have the crucial triumvirate of characteristics for this - a good understanding of organisational leadership, a finely tuned bullshit detector and an inability to keep my mouth shut when simple improvements can be made. I also took a job at entry level after a career at strategic level as a cruise into retirement. It was sadly inevitable. Thankfully I was able to move on before it became damaging, not least thanks to your work. It was great to listen to the podcast. Thank you.

Nathalie Martinek PhD's avatar

I'm so glad you've made a move before the shit hit the fan. You know the game and I'm sure you can play it well...and even better if you don't have to play it all!

Katarina Acsova's avatar

Learning the game and "how-to play it well" leaves scar tissue

Katarina Acsova's avatar

Oh, does this ever sound familiar. I look back on my career and am shocked at how long it took me to realize what was happening. So happy to be retired and away from the psychological torture of not wanting to (constitutionally unable to)fit in with people I didnt respect or trust.

Hayley allan's avatar

Thank goodness I m not the only one! Katrina, thanks so much for your comment. You describe how I felt so perfectly. Let’s enjoy the freedom, finally.

Katarina Acsova's avatar

Would be so much easier to enjoy if the unfolding facism didnt reveal how much of that pathology is all around us and rewarded and protected.

Raj Batra's avatar

Read the introduction and wanted to voice my strong agreement with your assertion that there's commonality between cancers and the behavioral psychology of a workplace.

I have come to the same realization approaching my interest in the study of behavioral psychology, following a "failed" career purpose in academia studying the root causes of lethal cancer.

The striking concordance between when individual cells become rogue based on environmental stressors, and how they react with mutations and epigenetic deregulations to topple the host (microenvironment) that is mistreating their individuality is unmistakable.