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I want to say the author is a victim because he is trying to drum up sympathy for the old white man being replaced (which could also be him). He could be influenced by “the great replacement” and other white supremacist values. Responses to his tweet could be both saviours and persecutors creating the perfect storm.
Love it Julia! The saviours and persecutor comments on that thread were thoroughly amusing to read.
The author used his platform to present himself as victim when the event had nothing to do with him. I could see some of the comments viewed him as a perpetrator, creating a sub-triangle disconnected from the main issue being discussed. An injustice triangle fractal.
From the tweet author: Wokeness is the persecutor (and the woke CEO sort of is for diversity hiring), the victims are the people on the submarine (also the CEO in a sense for falling for the woke "virus"). Indirectly, Joey is taking on the role of savior to tell people on Twitter to not listen to Wokeness because it will get you killed (turn you into victims) if you don't listen to his "insightful" thoughts.
Personally, people are individually responsible for listening to "woke" ideas and choosing to implement them or not. Wokeness is not a persecutor. The CEO may be responsible for not hiring qualified people, but there are no victims. I am assuming the people on that sub wanted to be there and chose to be there, so I don't see them as victims, unless they were lied to in some way. I honestly know very little about the sub and Russia stories because I wasn't following them at all.
Thank you Barbara! So happy you commented here on this Drama Triangle fun. I had the same initial interpretation of the tweet as you wrote in the first paragraph.
I'm also inclined to agree with your second analysis about wokeness. It has no power to influence people if they don't listen to and pursue these ideas. In this sense, those who follow wokeness because they believed in these ideas like idols, and yet were hurt as a consequence of their idolatry - can they be considered victims?
No. Someone in the Drama Triangle might consider them victims. But I would say that everyone who has an idol has begun to lift those folks up as having "special knowledge" or a "special skillset" that others don't have. In the case of doctors, many believe that doctors have some special ability to read data in a way that a lay person can't. So they tend to trust a doctor's opinion over others'. They say "trust the experts." But they place the responsibility for making judgement calls onto the doctors. That is responsibility shifting because they see doctors as "saviors." I wrote about it here: https://dramaofitall.substack.com/p/idolization-in-the-drama-triangle
So, in the case of wokeness, some people believe those who came up with this ideology and their beliefs are "experts" in sociology, etc. It's the same thing. The regular people who fell for wokeness are not thinking critically and are simply trusting the woke spokesmen and women as "experts" in that field. So they put the responsibility of questioning the belief system onto the woke people out of idolatry. It was their responsibility to keep that critical thinking as one of their responsibilities. So they can't be victims.
I want to say the author is a victim because he is trying to drum up sympathy for the old white man being replaced (which could also be him). He could be influenced by “the great replacement” and other white supremacist values. Responses to his tweet could be both saviours and persecutors creating the perfect storm.
Love it Julia! The saviours and persecutor comments on that thread were thoroughly amusing to read.
The author used his platform to present himself as victim when the event had nothing to do with him. I could see some of the comments viewed him as a perpetrator, creating a sub-triangle disconnected from the main issue being discussed. An injustice triangle fractal.
Thank you for your perspective Julia!
From the tweet author: Wokeness is the persecutor (and the woke CEO sort of is for diversity hiring), the victims are the people on the submarine (also the CEO in a sense for falling for the woke "virus"). Indirectly, Joey is taking on the role of savior to tell people on Twitter to not listen to Wokeness because it will get you killed (turn you into victims) if you don't listen to his "insightful" thoughts.
Personally, people are individually responsible for listening to "woke" ideas and choosing to implement them or not. Wokeness is not a persecutor. The CEO may be responsible for not hiring qualified people, but there are no victims. I am assuming the people on that sub wanted to be there and chose to be there, so I don't see them as victims, unless they were lied to in some way. I honestly know very little about the sub and Russia stories because I wasn't following them at all.
Thank you Barbara! So happy you commented here on this Drama Triangle fun. I had the same initial interpretation of the tweet as you wrote in the first paragraph.
I'm also inclined to agree with your second analysis about wokeness. It has no power to influence people if they don't listen to and pursue these ideas. In this sense, those who follow wokeness because they believed in these ideas like idols, and yet were hurt as a consequence of their idolatry - can they be considered victims?
No. Someone in the Drama Triangle might consider them victims. But I would say that everyone who has an idol has begun to lift those folks up as having "special knowledge" or a "special skillset" that others don't have. In the case of doctors, many believe that doctors have some special ability to read data in a way that a lay person can't. So they tend to trust a doctor's opinion over others'. They say "trust the experts." But they place the responsibility for making judgement calls onto the doctors. That is responsibility shifting because they see doctors as "saviors." I wrote about it here: https://dramaofitall.substack.com/p/idolization-in-the-drama-triangle
So, in the case of wokeness, some people believe those who came up with this ideology and their beliefs are "experts" in sociology, etc. It's the same thing. The regular people who fell for wokeness are not thinking critically and are simply trusting the woke spokesmen and women as "experts" in that field. So they put the responsibility of questioning the belief system onto the woke people out of idolatry. It was their responsibility to keep that critical thinking as one of their responsibilities. So they can't be victims.
Anyone think the Ocean is the Perpetrator?